Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Saints Valentine/The Pope

Moulsecoomb, England-Google Images
Google Images
Apple Images
Pembokeshire, Wales-trekearth








































































Saints Valentine

From New Advent: The Catholic Encyclopedia

New Advent

At least three different Saint Valentines, all of them martyrs, are mentioned in the early martyologies 14 February. One is described as a priest from Rome, another as a Bishop from of Interamna (modern Central Italy, and these two seem both to have suffered in the second half of the third century and to have been buried on the Flaminian Way, but at different distances from the city. Of both these St. Valentines some sort of Acta (official records) are preserved but they are of relatively late date and of no historical value. Of the third Saint Valentine, who suffered in Africa with a number of companions, nothing further is known.

Saint Valentine's Day had its origin in England and France during the Middle Ages. 

KNIGHT, KEVIN (2009) Saint Valentine, New York, New Advent.

The Pope

Thank you, Jeff Jenkins of Facebook and Thoughts and Theology blog for sending this to me.  To be very clear, I am not one that believes in or submits to Papal authority as a non-Roman Catholic. I am instead a definite and definitive Reformed Theologian and Philosopher. Personally I do not have a problem with the Pope resigning if he has become too old and physically unable to do the work to the best of his ability. Perhaps from this satirical photo the idea is that one could hypothetically argue that God would surely sustain and maintain his Papal mission/ministry until death if legitimate. Therefore concluding his Papal mission/ministry false, and perhaps the Papacy false. But that is not the only possible reasonable related set of propositions and conclusions.  It could be stated for example, that without death he still performed reasonably well the duties of the Papal mission/ministry and therefore this would not make his Papal mission/ministry false or the papacy.  My take is that although I do not hold to a Papacy, as noted, and therefore he is not infallible or the Vicar of Christ, he still even with many errors may be used by God as a Christian representative holding to certain Christian essentials such as the Biblical nature of God, the Trinity, the atonement of Christ, the resurrection, and the exclusivity of Christ for salvation, in his mission/ministry although certainly, he is not my Christian representative or those of the Reformed Church or Protestant Church.

More of the same...
Something to ponder on...Not that I am against a nice, quality ring, but I find the two months 'rule' amusing.

video

40 comments:

Russell Norman Murray said...

Oh, with the recent Canadian laws, won't you be my Valentine...NOT!!!

Satire And Theology said...

That is a count my blessings moment...

Jeff said...

I would suspect that many people might think of Mother Theresa as possibly the greatest Christian example of our time. However, what if Mother Theresa, with all her incredible good works, was never truly born again? Is it possible to believe in all the basic foundational doctrines of Christianity, at least intellectually, and yet not be regenerated? I was born again when I was 19, yet before that, I always believed in God, in Jesus, and in the Holy Spirit, I prayed, I read my Bible, I went to church and Sunday School. In my case, I believe that it was all a process that God was working in me. But could it be that most, possibly even all, of the past Popes are in Hell? And could it even be possible that Mother Theresa could be in Hell? I don't know that we can know for sure, but the Bible says that our very best 'good works' are as filthy rags to God, since He compares them to His blindingly holy, pure white righteousness. (i.e., Isaiah 64:6) And Jesus said that you must be born again. If the Catholic Church teaches that faith alone is not sufficient for salvation, or that the Bible by itself is not enough, then can one truly be regenerated and continue to follow that theology?

Satire And Theology said...

Reasonable, Jeff.

Reading Alan Schreck for my PhD, I received the impression he and orthodox Roman Catholic theologians and thinkers believed in salvation via grace through faith as in without the work of Christ that there would be no salvation. But they had the idea of merit. Therefore they struggle with the notion of grace through faith alone as without papal/church tradition and place far too much emphasis on trusting in the related works of the Roman Catholic Church via members. If they state they believe in grace through faith alone it includes tradition.

There is a definite difference between the RCC and the LDS and the Watchtower in that the RCC have a basic correct understanding of the nature of God and how to be saved, at least to some degree, although there is error. Whereas the LDS and Watchtower are considered pseudo-Christian cults because God is different and their modes of salvation radically different. It is not just a matter of adding merit to what is orthodox.

From my recent Time post on the DRRNM/thekingpin68 post:

As a Reformed theologian I would be in agreement with much of John Calvin's theology in regard to the nature of God, sovereignty, salvation, free will and determinism. He made many reasonable critiques about the Roman Catholic Church of his era, and was more knowledgeable than I on the subject. That being stated, I view the Roman Catholic Church as a Christian church with like any church, some Christians within it today, because of orthodox views on the nature of God, the Trinity and the resurrection and the atonement, in its basics, although not holding to their sacramental views. There is a classic Roman Catholic/Protestant divide here on whether, although salvation is through grace through faith alone (Ephesians 2), and it could also be stated, faith through grace alone as God provides both, the sacraments, within legal justification can provide the believer with merit.

Roman Catholic theologian Alan Schreck believes so as he notes that although the sacraments are a gift from God and are not magic, that they are natural signs that when properly administered provide the follower with the merits of Jesus Christ. Schreck (1984: 150).

Jeff said...

There is a definite difference between the RCC and the LDS and the Watchtower in that the RCC have a basic correct understanding of the nature of God and how to be saved, at least to some degree, although there is error. Whereas the LDS and Watchtower are considered pseudo-Christian cults because God is different and their modes of salvation radically different. It is not just a matter of adding merit to what is orthodox.

Well stated!

Additionally, someone could be a member of a Episcopal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc. church, having attended there for many years, believing in basically all the teachings of the church, and yet never be born again/regenerated. I would call that person a religious churchgoer, and not a true Christian or a true follower of Christ. They may believe in Jesus, but I've talked to drunks on the street that also do drugs that say they believe in Jesus, and pray to Him every day. The Bible says that even the devil believes, and trembles. (James 2:19) So, even though there is a division between Catholic and Protestant, being a Protestant doesn't necessarily mean that you're saved, either. And in both Episcopal and Lutheran churches, I have been present and seen baptismal regeneration being taught, and infants being sprinkled (baptized or christened), and the Pastor or Priest announce that the child is now a child of God and part of the Kingdom of God.

[Episcopal/Anglican]
“Holy Baptism is full initiation by water and the Holy Spirit into Christ’s Body, the Church” (Book of Common Prayer, p. 298).

Satire And Theology said...

'The Bible says that even the devil believes, and trembles. (James 2:19) So, even though there is a division between Catholic and Protestant, being a Protestant doesn't necessarily mean that you're saved, either.'

Yes, true enough, sir.

Anonymous said...

Σας ευχαριστούμε για την κατασκευή την ειλικρινή προσπάθεια να μιλήσει για αυτό. Νιώθω πολύ ισχυρή γι 'αυτό και θα ήθελα να διαβάσετε περισσότερα. Αν είναι εντάξει, όπως εσείς την επίτευξη επιπλέον εκτεταμένη σοφία, μπορεί να έχετε το μυαλό συμπεριλαμβανομένου του επιπλέον αντικείμενα παρόμοια με αυτό το ένα με πρόσθετες πληροφορίες; Θα είναι εξαιρετικά χρήσιμο και χρήσιμο για μένα και τους φίλους μου.

Satire And Theology said...

'Thank you for making the sincere effort to speak about this. I feel very strong about it and would like to read more. If it's OK, as you achieve extra extensive wisdom, may you mind including extra articles similar to this one with additional information? Would be extremely useful and helpful for me and my friends.'

Welcome.

Anonymous said...

It's going to be finish of mine day, but before end I am reading this enormous paragraph to increase my know-how.

Here is my web page ... cash payday loan

Satire And Theology said...

Knowing is better...

Anonymous said...

Keep on working, great job!

Anonymous said...

In many cаses, a pеrson will reach a point where they deѕpеrately seеk relief and solutіons for theіг іѕsueѕ.

Satire And Theology said...

'Anonymous said...
Keep on working, great job!'

Thank you, Kool...

Satire And Theology said...

Relief via prayer and hopefully reason and common sense...

Anonymous said...

I'd like to find out more? I'd like to find out more details.

Satire And Theology said...

Keep reading, and a cheque might assist.;)

Anonymous said...

I'm impressed, I must say.

Satire And Theology said...

Cheers.

Anonymous said...


Thanks for a marvelous posting!

Satire And Theology said...

Marvelous Murray?

Anonymous said...

[url=http://audiobooksworld.co.uk/The-World-Teacher-for-All-Humanity/p223792/

Satire And Theology said...

The link did not go to a cult leader, but the book connects to

Creme, Benjamin. The World Teacher for All Humanity. Share International Foundation, 2007

Wiki

'He asserts that the second coming prophesied by many religions will come in the form of Maitreya the World Teacher. Maitreya is the name Buddhists use for the future Buddha, but Creme claims that Maitreya is the teacher that all religions point towards and hope for. Other names for him, according to Creme, are the Christ, the Imam Mahdi, Krishna, and the Messiah. Creme says Maitreya is the "Avatar for the Aquarian Age" and is currently living in London since 19 July 1977.[2][3]'

Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing such a pleasant idea, article is good, thats why i have read it fully.

Satire And Theology said...

Kool, Sir or Madame...

Miss Sarah W. Winter said...

GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAU! It is a: beautiful, incredible, wonderfull, amazing, gorgeous, HEAVENLY SKY!
I'm in love!
Have a good days Dr!

Satire And Theology said...

Blessings this week, Sarah.

Cheers, Russ.:)

Anonymous said...

[url=http://rusbridewomen.w-ru.com/]rusbridewomen.w-ru.com[/url]-single women looking for men for dating, marriage. Russian dating and marriage agency presents beautiful russian brides women. Dating service with single russian women and girls - brides, seeking marriage minded singles men. Lonely gorgeous pretty single beautiful women.

Satire And Theology said...

Russian Bloggers.;)

Anonymous said...

Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.

Anonymous said...

Bе wаtchful wіth wаshіng soda аnԁ uѕe glοves аs it іѕ highly alκaline.

Satire And Theology said...

'Anonymous said...
Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.'

Glad I was helpful.

I think...

Satire And Theology said...

'Anonymous said...
Bе wаtchful wіth wаshіng soda аnԁ uѕe glοves аs it іѕ highly alκaline.'

Washing soda?

Is that a cross between mouth wash and soda pop?

Anonymous said...

China National Offshore Co. needs you as an agent to represent us
in the United State of America, Canada and mexico region.
We want to know if you can work and get paid weekly without leaving or affecting your present job/business as this privilege can offer you earnings between
$2000-$10,000+ per month depending on your speed,
accuracy and devotion to the work
Any interested personel should contact,
Mr Yuan L.Zao
(Overseas affairs)
Email:hr_cnooc@fengv.com
Website: http://www.cnooc.com.cn
(Head of canada operations)

Satire And Theology said...

Now others can see this 'great offer' as well...

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why but this web site is loading extremely slow for me.

Anonymous said...

Hi there very nice site!! Man .. Beautiful .. Amazing .
. I will bookmark your site and take the feeds additionally?
I'm glad to find so many helpful information here in the submit, we'd like work out more techniques on this regard, thank you for sharing.

Satire And Theology said...

'Anonymous said...
I'm not sure why but this web site is loading extremely slow for me.'

New computer time...

Satire And Theology said...

'Anonymous said...
Hi there very nice site!! Man .. Beautiful .. Amazing .
. I will bookmark your site and take the feeds additionally?
I'm glad to find so many helpful information here in the submit, we'd like work out more techniques on this regard, thank you for sharing.'

Statscounter will miss the pageview regardless...

Anonymous said...

Fascinating blog.

Satire And Theology said...

Fascinating Blogger would be better, but I shall take it...